Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Tableless layout. Is it always divs with position:absolute?

Hi,
I think the subject says it all...

thanks

ThunderMusicor spans,
or position:relative
ok, lets say I want a structure that looks like www.yahoo.com
a top bar (title), a left bar (navigation menu), a content pan, a right
bar(actually full of things on yahoo, but I would put publicity) and a
bottom bar (copyrights and such).

I tried to position everything in absolute, but, probably because I'm no
expert with css, I can't seem to make this simple structure work correctly.
Could you give me a little hint please?

thanks

ThunderMusic

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or spans,
or position:relative
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The new Yahoo IS tableless now. Its a bit complicated, but take a look at
the source of the home page - its all there.

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ok, lets say I want a structure that looks like www.yahoo.com
>
a top bar (title), a left bar (navigation menu), a content pan, a right
bar(actually full of things on yahoo, but I would put publicity) and a
bottom bar (copyrights and such).
>
I tried to position everything in absolute, but, probably because I'm no
expert with css, I can't seem to make this simple structure work
correctly. Could you give me a little hint please?
>
thanks
>
ThunderMusic
>
>
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>or spans,
>or position:relative
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div are block elements, so by default they go on seperate lines. to put a
div side by side must be done with a css position command. in general to use
positioning, you need to set absolute heights and widths to divs, so you can
position them correctly. often you want client script to calc offsets based
on screen size.

try;

<html>
<body>
<div
style="background-color:green;position:absolute;left:10;top:10;width :400;height:100;">
top
</div>
<div
style="background-color:red;position:absolute;left:10;top:610;width: 400;height:100;">
bottom
</div>
<div>
<div
style="background-color:blue;position:absolute;left:10;top:110;width :100;height:500;">
left
</div>
<div
style="background-color:yellow;position:absolute;left:110;top:110;wi dth:300;height:500;">
right
</div>
</body>
</html>

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Originally Posted by

ok, lets say I want a structure that looks like www.yahoo.com
>
a top bar (title), a left bar (navigation menu), a content pan, a right
bar(actually full of things on yahoo, but I would put publicity) and a
bottom bar (copyrights and such).
>
I tried to position everything in absolute, but, probably because I'm no
expert with css, I can't seem to make this simple structure work
correctly. Could you give me a little hint please?
>
thanks
>
ThunderMusic
>
>
"Horace Nunley" <biteme@.biteme.netwrote in message
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>or spans,
>or position:relative
>>
>>
>>
>>


>
>


Hello Thunder,

There is a lot of good information on how to do tableless layouts:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tableless+layout
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/csslayout-howto (only covers three column layout
but adding the header and the footer aren't difficult)
http://www.positioniseverything.net/piefecta-rigid.html - covers alot of the
gotcha's and has a pointer at the bottom of the page to a script which will
generate layouts for you

A couple of good books:
Bulletproof Web Design
CSS Mastery
Stylin' with CSS
Javascript + CSS + DOM Magic
(The books speak to absolute versus relative positioning as well as fluid
versus static design of pages.)
--
enjoy - brians
http://www.limbertech.com
"ThunderMusic" wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

ok, lets say I want a structure that looks like www.yahoo.com
>
a top bar (title), a left bar (navigation menu), a content pan, a right
bar(actually full of things on yahoo, but I would put publicity) and a
bottom bar (copyrights and such).
>
I tried to position everything in absolute, but, probably because I'm no
expert with css, I can't seem to make this simple structure work correctly.
Could you give me a little hint please?
>
thanks
>
ThunderMusic
>
>
"Horace Nunley" <biteme@.biteme.netwrote in message
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or spans,
or position:relative


>
>
>


the third link seems to be exactly what I need, so I'll look at it when I
have time... ;) thanks a lot

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Hello Thunder,
>
There is a lot of good information on how to do tableless layouts:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tableless+layout
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/csslayout-howto (only covers three column layout
but adding the header and the footer aren't difficult)
http://www.positioniseverything.net/piefecta-rigid.html - covers alot of
the
gotcha's and has a pointer at the bottom of the page to a script which
will
generate layouts for you
>
A couple of good books:
Bulletproof Web Design
CSS Mastery
Stylin' with CSS
Javascript + CSS + DOM Magic
(The books speak to absolute versus relative positioning as well as fluid
versus static design of pages.)
--
enjoy - brians
http://www.limbertech.com
>
>
"ThunderMusic" wrote:
>

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Originally Posted by

>ok, lets say I want a structure that looks like www.yahoo.com
>>
>a top bar (title), a left bar (navigation menu), a content pan, a right
>bar(actually full of things on yahoo, but I would put publicity) and a
>bottom bar (copyrights and such).
>>
>I tried to position everything in absolute, but, probably because I'm no
>expert with css, I can't seem to make this simple structure work
>correctly.
>Could you give me a little hint please?
>>
>thanks
>>
>ThunderMusic
>>
>>
>"Horace Nunley" <biteme@.biteme.netwrote in message
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or spans,
or position:relative
>
>
>
>


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